用过的大神帮帮忙，ts9和ts808,那个更好用！

陈帆765

最近想玩单块，打算用个fulltone ocd   再整个ts系列一起用，在考虑ts9,ts808,麻烦用个的给点建议！！O(∩_∩)O谢谢

小小大虾

各有特色，TS9声音硬朗，808柔一点，。

ㄨ摇滚通缉令

个人觉得ts808的管味要浓一些

daylightfly88

各有特色，808不是TRUE BY PASS，会有一定的音色损失，其实也无所谓，9是由808演化而来的

renjiaju

同问 马一个

英式失真

是单用还是做推子啊？这两个差别挺大呢

kaka建

英式失真 发表于 2015-9-6 09:53
是单用还是做推子啊？这两个差别挺大呢

哥，做推失真哪个好

assassin2572

这问题国外各大论坛都成月经贴了，808比9要贵不少，好多人发誓808比9更优秀，更有人说只有vintage 808才能出纯正的TS声音。给你翻译个经典回答吧：

There's only THREE real differences that will make any true tonal difference (that anyone with even fair hearing can differentiate):

二者就三个区别，听力正常的都能发现

1. Two resistors on the pedal's output that drive the amp a bit harder with the 808 versus the 9. This is known as the "brown mod," and can be done quickly and cheaply to any TS or TS clone.
808输出阶段有两个电阻跟9不一样，可以推amp更猛一点。好多人自己改TS9，换上这两个电阻（叫Brown mod），价格很便宜
2. Two clipping diodes that have a slightly larger "threshold" than the standard silicon types that are used in over 90% of all diode clipper pedals (that are mass produced). They allow the 808 to have a bit more "air," volume, etc. Some folks describe it as warmth versus a little more compression/congestion with the TS9 (and 99% of TS clones). These "special NOS diodes" can also be duplicated by using slightly different ones than in the TS9, so that it's not an expensive/exclusive/unobtanium sort of thing.

808上有两个消波二极管的阈值比其他量产单块上的要大，所以808可以提供更多的高频和音量，听起来更透气。这两个消波二极管也可以在TS9上自己改。

3. The op amp chip only if your TS9 has anything other than a 4558 variant. Some will swear that 4558's differ, or there are "NOS 4558's), but that is utter BS. Maxon/Ibanez chose that chip because it was stupid cheap. Any different ones in the 808's were simply where Ibanez was procuring the cheapest stock at the time. It doesn't matter if it's the TI chip, the Malaysian RC, or whatever. The newer "DD" chips are the same, just have a better noise floor. The NJM and JRC chips are one in the same, since NJM bought the factory and machines. If you pull up the data sheet for ALL 4558 incarnations, you will find that the integrated circuit within it is identical - there is no way for it to sound different, and there is no "premium factory" making those things. So back to number 3 (sorry for the rant - lots of people get taken for a ride paying for a "NOS 4558") - there were some older TS9's that had a non-4558 chip, and it just isn't a good one for creating distortion. That is the entire key behind the op amp in the TS - it is BAD for hi fi purposes.

运算发达器的话，808和TS9都是基于4558芯片，可能片子的生产厂家不一样，但是声音基本没区别，有人说不一样的话基本是胡扯。但是早期生产的TS9由于Ibanez想降低成本，用了很多不是4558的放大器，听起来基本上是像屎一样，千万要避免。

所以排除TS9可能用的不是4558芯片的区别，两者就两个区别。你要是不想多花808的钱，基本上买TS9之后不满意都可以自己改。

业火红莲

放影子流浪

808单独用来过载更好听一些 但是808当推子没有9好 9单独用略硬 听感弹性没有808好